Stephen Amell surprised the Arrow fanbase when he tweeted out that his run as Oliver Queen will come to an end come Fall this year.
But how will this affect the other shows in the fan-dubbed “Flarrowverse”? If the next crossover is any indication, they will be affected quite heavily.
Ardent DC fans noticed this headline in the series premiere of The Flash. It was the first clue that hinted of a major story arc in the future.
Ever since then, fans wondered if such an epic event would ever see the the light of day in live action. After all, the original Crisis reshaped the entire DC comic line. An event not seen again until recent years in DC. Marvel is another story, but that’s for another time…
For those who may not be familiar with the event, Crisis On Infinite Earths was a massive storyline that involved practically the entire DC Comics line. Much like the current CW shows, DC had a multiverse which had the same or similar characters in different universes. Eventually, DC decided to reboot their entire universe and start with a clean slate. To do this, they started a massive story arc that would streamline all these different realities into one.
And that, in a nutshell, was Crisis On Infinite Earths. Now, onto the SPOILERS for a 35 year old comic story.
The most widely known fact about Crisis, is the event resulted in the deaths of some pretty major names. Namely Supergirl and The Flash.
The original Supergirl, Kara Zor-El, died approximately halfway through the series. The image of Superman openly weeping while holding her body is considered one of the most iconic images in DC’s history.
The Barry Allen Flash sacrificed himself to save the universe. Shortly thereafter, DC promoted Kid Flash (Wally West) to take his uncle’s place.
Now just because a live action adaption shares the name doesn’t necessarily mean that all details have to be followed. But those two moments are vividly remembered to this day. It’s a pretty safe bet that at least one of them will happen.
OK, but what about Ollie?
Green Arrow did appear in Crisis, but it was the Earth 2 (Golden Age) version that kicks the bucket. Arrowverse fans may recall that Ollie is already dead in the televised version of Earth 2. It’s what spurned the Earth 2 Laurel into becoming Black Siren instead of Black Canary.
One of the major plot points in Season 7 is an adult William in the future trying to find out what happened to his father. It’s pretty well established that Ollie has not been heard from for some time. But if Ollie died during a massive battle, it probably would be something of legend. So what the heck happened?
Could this be what happens to our beloved Stephen Amell onscreen version of Ollie? It’s way too early to speculate fully, as Season 7 hasn’t even finished yet. There is still a long way to go before December 2019. And even if Ollie does bite the big one, it’s not like death has stopped characters before.
What do you think? Should Ollie die in the series finale?
The CW has officially renewed all shows in the fan favorite Arrowverse TV family. Broadcasting Cable reports CW President Mark Pedowitz made the announcements during the TCA (Television Critics Association) Winter 2019 Press Tour. The shows were among the 10 announced renewals for the 2019-2020 season.
“This season, we expanded our primetime schedule to six nights with the addition of Sunday — which has been an unqualified success for the network, our affiliates and our advertisers,” said Pedowitz. “In addition to growing our schedule across the week, we also continue to add more year-round programming. The early renewal of these signature CW series gives us a head start on laying out the 2019-2020 season, and this is just the beginning.”
Usually renewals are not announced until early Spring, so this year’s early announcement does show CW’s approval of all the shows’ ratings.
This will put Arrow at Season 8, The Flash at Season 6, Supergirl and Legends Of Tomorrow both at Season 5, and Black Lightning at Season 3. The pilot for Batwoman, which will center around Ruby Rose’s character introduced during last month’s crossover, will presumably air during that season as well.
It’s a double whammy return to the airwave for Geekville Radio. Join Seth “Zandrax” Zillmann and “Crazy Train” Jonathan Bolick as they talk about the two giant stories in the comic superhero world.
Whammy #1 – The world is still buzzing over the first Avengers Endgame Trailer. What can we expect from some of the nuggets dropped in that teaser? How can Tony get saved? Could we see Rescue? Adam Warlock perhaps? And what about that reveal of Hawkeye as Ronin?
Whammy #2 – The CW did their annual “Arrowverse” crossover Elseworlds. While it was only three parts instead of the usual four, it did finally bring Lois Lane into the show, as well as introduced the CW viewers to Gotham City and Batwoman. With all the hints dropped at famous Batman villains, could we finally be seeing The Caped Crusader on CW Programming?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APl1IX34X50
All this and more in another fun-filled Geekville Radio
This episode of Geekville Radio is dedicated to the memory of Gary Kurtz. Who, with the exception of George Lucas himself, may be the man most responsible for Star Wars getting made.
RIP Gary Kurtz
He will obviously best known for Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back, but he did have other titles to his credit. He also produced George’s first big hit, 1973’s American Graffiti, along with 1989’s Slipstream starring Mark Hamill and the late great Bill Paxton.
RIP Scott Wilson
Scott Wilson is probably best known to the current generation as Hershel in The Walking Dead. He was a regular series cast member in the first couple seasons. He also voiced Hershel for video game releases, and Robot Chicken. Hs career dates back to the mid 1960’s, and his first credited role according to IMDB is the original In The Heat Of The Night
Both Iron Fist and Luke Cage have been canceled by Netlfix
While it may not be surprising just for Iron Fist, fans were a little shocked at the cancellation of both Iron Fist and Luke Cage by Netflix. Both shows were well received, with Iron Fist almost universally praised as being a huge improvement over the first season. Especially when it comes to Finn Jones and fight choreography.
The big question is “Why both shows?”. Seth and Train can really only speculate, but there are a few possible reasons. Could this mean a Heroes For Hire show? Or even a Daughters Of The Dragon? And if so would it be for Netflix or Disney? Is it in either Netflix’s or Disney’s best interests to keep shows on Netflix, and not move them to Disney’s streaming service? And if they are Disney bound, than theoretically they could cross over with Agents Of SHIELD, another show that is rumored to move to Disney either next year or the year after.
On a side note, Seth and Train point out how Luke Cage can be considered the ‘White Meat Babyface” of the Netflix Marvel programming.
Kathleen Kennedy’s contract with LucasFilm has been renewed
The only Star Wars movie currently in production is Episode IX. It will be the final “Episode”, and it will be marketed as such. There will be the aforementioned films by Game Of Thrones creators. Plus the Rian Johnson trilogy is still in development. So there will be no shortage of Star Wars on the big screen, despite the reported dialing back on films
One title that is absent from this list is the rumored Obi-Wan Kenobi film. We had reported a few months back that the film was set to begin filming in Ireland after Episode IX had wrapped. Just because that movie wasn’t mentioned, doesn’t necessarily mean that it is dead in the water.
When you look at the past films under her watch, several films did have some bumps along the way.
Rogue One went through a direction change, with Tony Gilroy taking over to adjust what Gareth Edwards had done. However Edwards maintained Director credit.
Directors Phil Lord and Chris Miller were outright fired from Solo and Ron Howard was hired to almost completely re-shoot the film. When you factor that in, it’s amazing it still made its release deadline.
Colin Trevorrow left Episode IX and got replaced by JJ
It seems the only movies that DIDN’T have troubles were with Abrams and Johnson.
Jon Favreau’s Series
In other Star Wars news, Jon Favreau’s series The Mandalorianhas begun filming. It of course will be one of the flagship shows on Disney’s upcoming streaming service, now called Disney Play.
While no cast or characters have been announced, the premise will be a few years after Return of The Jedi, but well before The Force Awakens. There will be no First Order as of yet.
On the subject of Disney, Hollywood Reporter has also stated Kevin Feige will be overseeing future X-Men movies with the Disney purchase of Fox. Disney’s Bob Iger gave some key answers to questions about Fox-owned properties in the MCU
I think it only makes sense,” Iger said. “I want to be careful here because of what’s been communicated to the Fox folks, but I think they know. It only makes sense for Marvel to be supervised by one entity. There shouldn’t be two Marvels.
When asked about talent
Very good question. We’re going to take the best people from both companies and that’s who’s gonna basically be on the playing field for us. Meaning, talent will prevail. Fox Searchlight is a great example. You look at FX, NatGeo. Yeah, you’re buying libraries and brands, but you’re also buying the people. I’m not gonna talk about specific people right now except to say that I’ve met with virtually the entire senior management team at Fox and I’m not only fully engaged with them on what the possibilities for them might be but I’m excited about the prospects.
It would stand to reason that many of the characters may get re-cast. As much as fans may want it, they probably shouldn’t hold their breath for an onscreen meeting between Hugh Jackman’s Wolverine and Ryan Reynolds’s Deadpool.
The Next Spider-Man villain will be Mysterio
Jake Gyllenhaall was officially announced in the cast for Spider-Man Far From Home. He will be portraying Quentin Black, aka Mysterio. This will be the live-action film debut for the longtime Spider-Man villain. It’s also confirmed that Michael Keaton will be reprising the role of Adrian Toombs/Vulture. A leaked set photo shows Gyllenhaal in costume. Sadly, no “Fish Bowl Look”. At least not yet.
WB Crossover will be Elseworlds.
The annual CW “Flarrowverse” crossover will be titled Elseworlds. Entertainment Weekly reports that it will be a three part crossover, not the previous four part.
The Flash will kick it off on Sunday, which will be followed up by Arrow on Monday, and wrapped up with Supergirl on Tuesday. This breaks the previous pattern of Supergirl having the first part in the last two years.
While there will be no regular involvement with the Legends Of Tomorrow cast, it has been revealed that Superman will join in, and Lois Lane will make her debut.
In an unexpected turn, an official internet poster showed Stephen Amell in the Flash costume, and Grant Gustin in the Green Arrow threads.
Also notable is the name Nora Fries in the cast of characters. Nora is of course the ill-fated wife of Victor Fries, aka Mr. Freeze. When you factor that this will also serve as the introduction to Batwoman, it may be an indicator to the premise of the Batwoman series.
Supergirl made a regular habit of taking lesser known villains from Superman lore, and adapting classic Superman stories to fit The Girl Of Steel. Could this mean we’ll see some Batman villains on the small screen for Batwoman? Time will tell.
Finally, Train talks the major news surrounding the release of the long anticipated Read Dead Redemption 2. IGN gave the game a perfect 10 score. An act that is incredibly rare.
Are you in the Halloween spirit yet? If you need anything to scratch your Halloween itch, check out the latest episode of Examining The Dead. Train reviews the movie Train To Busan, and talk the outcome of the Friday The 13th lawsuit. And of course, Dan Wilson talks his new horror themed production company One Good Scare.
Geekville Radio is back with the usual co-hosts Seth and Crazy Train at the helm.
Dave Bautista has publicly stated that wants James Gunn reinstated as director for Guardians Of The Galaxy 3. Could this mean Drax is written out of the film? Could other actors follow suit? Heck Marvel themselves are backing Gunn, so what could be the outcome?
I will do what Im legally obligated to do but @Guardians without @JamesGunn is not what I signed up for. GOTG w/o @JamesGunn just isn’t GOTG. Its also pretty nauseating to work for someone who’d empower a smear campaign by fascists #cybernazis . That’s just how I feel https://t.co/Ym4FwruVDu
In another casting that has taken the geek world by storm, Ruby Rose has been confirmed to play Batwoman in the upcoming Arrowverse crossover in December.
Speaking of TV, the big rumor going around is that the Star Wars live action series for the Disney streaming service will be a 100 million dollar ten episode season. Not only that, it will center around the planet Mandalore in a post-Return Of The Jedi galaxy. Fitting given creator Jon Favreau’s connection to Mandaloreans from The Clone Wars.
All this and more in another fun-filled episode of Geekville Radio!
In a casting coup that will likely please the geek community, Ruby Rose has been revealed as the new Batwoman. The character was announced several months back as a focal part of this year’s Arrowverse crossover, which has become an annual event for the CW superhero shows.
Rose is of course best known for the smash hit series Orange Is The New Black, currently in its sixth season on Netflix.
Batwoman, not to be confused with Batgirl, was introduced in the 1950s. The character was revamped in 2006, and given her own series in 2011.
The multi-part crossover special will air in December on CW. If all goes well, Batwoman will be given her own TV series. Though no indication yet which of the existing 53 Earths she’ll hail from.
One of the biggest stories in all of geekery finished another chapter. The merger of Disney with 20th Century Fox properties has been approved by stockholders. This brings us another step closer to Disney having control of Fox material. This has obvious effects on two major properties
Marvel
How would this affect the MCU?
Could we get Hugh Jackman back?
What could be airing on the upcoming Disney streaming service?
Star Wars
Will we get a Disney produced box set?
What about the 3D releases?
Will we finally get the original Unaltered Trilogy?
In other Star Wars news, Lucasfilm has officially announced that Carrie Fisher will be appearing in Episode IX via unused footage from The Force Awakens. Plus, two more names have been announced in Richard E Grant and Naomi Acke.
And of course, Episode IX looks to be the final Star Wars movie in the Skywalker saga. Does this mean the end of the “Episode Format”?
The second half of the show is devoted to panels from San Diego Comic-Con. Mainly the Arrowverse shows, but there’s a little bit of Wonder Woman and Shazam talk. The panels are linked below
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpAaaZx4Ycw
Shazam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SCphPyHpL4
Aquaman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqiJ0TKF1vc
Wonder Woman
Arrow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkDZ_kgUih4
The Flash
Supergirl
Legends of Tomorrow
Are there any panels that interested you at San Diego Comic-Con? Sound off below!
One of the many highlights of San Diego Comic Con is the trailers that debut for all the superhero and sci-fi movies. This year was no exception. Join Seth and Crazy Train as the discuss their favorite trailers from the con. All the trailers are listed in the order they’re discussed. Watch the trailers and follow along!
MOVIES
AQUAMAN: Awesome visuals, Orm, Black Manta, and Jango Fett
SHAZAM: A lot of comedy, the origin is in the trailer. Did Zachary Levi watch Tom Hanks in Big for inspiration?
GODZILLA, KING OF THE MONSTERS: Millie Bobby Brown’s feature film debut. Mothra, Rodan, King Ghidorah… Will we have Kong? And Seth is calling it, “Humanity is the real monster”.
GLASS: The shared universe of Unbreakable and Split
Fantastic Beasts The Crimes Of Grindelwald: Young Dumbledore, a heel Johnny Depp? Yes please!
ARROWVERSE TV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlj4dXPGnAE
ARROW Season 7: Ollie vs. Everybody in jail. Who is the new archer? Vinnie Jones is back!
FLASH Season 5: Nora Allen, aka XS. Plus a new Speedster Villain? And that’s a REALLY old TV set.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jw30raSbrhE
SUPERGIRL Season 4: Another Anti-Alien Season. Is that Russian Kara in the spacesuit? CW programming on a Sunday?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoSjI3N3_rA
LEGENDS OF TOMORROW Season 4: They still have their Captain Planet elemental Powers. Mallus is only one of many monsters. And they make an inside joke about their ratings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWZm9fdnc6s
BLACK LIGHTNING Season 2: “Take the Light out of Black Lightning”… So that would make him Black Ning?
OTHER TV
YOUNG JUSTICE OUTSIDERS: Black Manta, Blue Beetle, Captain Atom, The Atom, Impulse, Ra’s Al Ghul, Dr. Fate, and more! Looks like Wally plays the role of Barry from Crisis. They officially have my attention at 2:45…
Finally, E3 is right around the corner. Train and Seth chime in on what they hope to hear from the major game publishers this year.
Have any thoughts on the state of Star Wars, The Arrowverse, or E3? Drop us a line below and let us know what you think! The chances are good that feedback will be read on the air in future episodes!
This special edition of Geekville Radio is devoted to The CW Arrowverse crossover Crisis On Earth X. It’s pretty much universally agreed that you can put nazis in anything sci-fi and it will never get old. Join Seth, Crazy Train, and special Guest Stargate Pioneer of The Gonna Geek Network as they review all four installments of the crossover.
Evil Ollie? Evil Supergirl? Paul Blackthorne keeping his impeccable Bristishness? Was it better than the Justice League movie? It’s all discussed in this near two hour geekout!